ORLANDO, Fla. – This week on the Season 5 premiere of “Black Men Sundays,” host Corie Murray interviews Richard Cuff — or, should we say Coach Richard Cuff?
As an alumni of the show, we got to hear Cuff’s advice way back in 2022 when he shared his thoughts on developing a roadmap for your future and explained his “five dimensions of wealth.” Today’s conversation, however, began with words on life guidance, hence why we think it’s appropriate to add “coach” to Cuff’s long list of titles.
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“I don’t know what a 65 year old is supposed to behave like, but because — and not by any design of my own — major adversity has seemed to always hit my life every 10 years, I’m forced to break everything apart like Lego blocks falling all over the place and start all over again, and I never look back to think that this hell that I’m going through right now, that’s tearing me apart, is actually going to serve to keep me young at heart,” Cuff said. “Aug. 15 will be my new life day because that was the third anniversary of my wife’s passing. So technically, I’m three years old now in my newness. I’m not the guy I was before my wife passed away and it took me these last three years to figure it out, and I think I’m ready to take on these next 10, but this time I’m going to be ahead of the curve for that remaking. The next time, I’m going to be the one to break the Lego blocks apart 10 years from now and start all over.”
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Before the conversation got into topics of politics, mentorship and more, Cuff told Corie of his recent travels.
Traveling to new places is of course one of the best ways to learn more about the world and about yourself, with Cuff’s retelling of his trip to Black Wall Street in Tulsa, Oklahoma, including multiple discoveries he didn’t expect to make.
“Here’s one of the things I did not expect. There’s got to be at least three, maybe four old churches. They look like they’re 200 years old, the buildings look like they’ve been around for — I mean, big, towering churches — and my thought was, every time they tell the story of White people being angry, angry enough to burn down the entire area of Black Wall Street, Greenwood, nobody mentions the fact that these four, five, big, stately churches were sitting there, and it’s almost in a sense like the churches were just sitting there watching it burn, and that was the spirit that I got,” he said. “I drove a street and I could just see the energy of the entrepreneur scurrying around. There are some areas of the community of Greenwood that have nothing but big empty lots, and you know that that’s where businesses and homes were, and what’s ironic is, it’s still not developed. So, I think the eye opener for me to see it for myself was, one, to see the established church was there the entire time and, in essence, did nothing, and to this day has done nothing, and then to see the entrepreneurial spirit of what is today Black Wall Street, it has more of a feeling of a flea market than it does a Black Wall Street. But I feel like that’s the opportunity for us as African Americans, as we now are beginning to think of ourselves as our own separate economy.”
Hear the full interview and more in Season 5, Episode 1 of “Black Men Sundays.”
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